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Well, we had a slightly abbreviated session at the pond in Hanson last night due to thunderstorms, but it was all Nelson needed to get his roll. Jeez, first time trying this year and he was rolling consistently within minutes, after a little coaching from Jordan.

Way to go, Nelson!

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Alright Nelson!!!!! :D
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WooHoo!! Way to go Nelson!
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Thanks guys. It wasn't pretty but it worked pretty well. 8)
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Congradulations Nelson!!! Way to go. What type of roll?
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Congratulations, Nelson!

Did you use your own kayak with a skirt?

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NorwayLady wrote:Congratulations, Nelson!

Did you use your own kayak with a skirt?

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No Bea I was wearing hot pants and pumps. :lol:


It's pretty hard to roll without a skirt and yes I used my own boat but borrowed a slightly bigger paddle......C2C
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C2C
swiss
pecan

REALLY boring at work!!!!!
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Hi Nelson.

Did you wear a wet suit over your hot pants?

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get'n-outside wrote:C2C
swiss
pecan

REALLY boring at work!!!!!


Sorry, I'm slow... I don't get it? :?
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C2C ROLL
swiss ROLL
Pecan ROLL

I am ashamed that I got it. Though it took me a while.
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Chip wrote:C2C ROLL
swiss ROLL
Pecan ROLL

I am ashamed that I got it. Though it took me a while.


I think the swiss threw me off. Now had he said jelly.... I would have been all over it.
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I apologize profusely. A rough week at work... it's my story and I'm sticking with it
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It's pretty hard to roll without a skirt and yes I used my own boat


Actually , it's not. Just as a fully-loaded boat will roll easier than an empty one, a flooded boat rolls easier than a dry one. Re-enter and roll (without sprayskirt attached) is a pretty darn good self-rescue, and worth practicing. The roll is slower, but not harder.
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...and then spend the rest of the day bilge pumping, I'd imagine. :)

If you don't have a spray skirt, would it make more sense to do a self-rescue with a paddle float?

Let me ask you this - if it's easier to roll with a flooded boat, might that be a good way to <i>learn</i> to roll?

Or taking that a step further... Would it be easier to to learn to roll in a boat that's had the front and rear compartments flooded?
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...and then spend the rest of the day bilge pumping, I'd imagine. Smile

If you don't have a spray skirt, would it make more sense to do a self-rescue with a paddle float?


Well,,, so you are in conditions (alone) requiring a self-rescue but you aren't wearing a sprayskirt? Ok, forgetting that little niggle, my preferred self-rescue using a paddle float is a re-enter and roll with paddle float. MUCH easier than the standard paddle-float self-rescue usually taught that has one doing a balancing act on stilts which is hard even in flat water, let alone where you would really need it. Yes, there will be more water in the boat after a re-enter and roll, most likely, but it also is a self-rescue that is more likely to actually work in rough conditions.

Let me ask you this - if it's easier to roll with a flooded boat, might that be a good way to learn to roll?

Or taking that a step further... Would it be easier to to learn to roll in a boat that's had the front and rear compartments flooded?


I would say yes to both, but there are easier ways to use aids to rolling while learning (such as a paddle-float) as opposed to flooding your boat.

But most of the time you are likely going to get an assisted rescue, unless you paddle alone alot. So working on the assisted rescues first so that you can do those quickly and efficiently and have a variety of techniques that you know how to do in varied conditions, this is where efforts should probably be focused first, before worrying too much about developing a roll.

Come on down to the Pond on Thursday nights and I can show you a bunch of different self and assisted rescues.
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Mark wrote:
It's pretty hard to roll without a skirt and yes I used my own boat


Actually , it's not. Just as a fully-loaded boat will roll easier than an empty one, a flooded boat rolls easier than a dry one. Re-enter and roll (without sprayskirt attached) is a pretty darn good self-rescue, and worth practicing. The roll is slower, but not harder.


Well all I can remember is seeing you trying it last year and although you did finally get your boat up it didn't look very easy.
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Takes practice, like anything else. I hadn't been practicing it (still don't). The hardest part is getting into the boat upside down and then orienting the paddle. The roll part is easier in a flooded boat.
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